Keywords vs Number of Articles

[jeremya23]

Okay I'm gonna sound like a newbie here, but I was reading through the Bum Marketing methods and I saw that for every product you promote you should write 50 keyword targeted articles. I get that, but I have a few questions on the keywords and where the articles are linked to.

So let's say I find my one product and I've got my writing straps on (they help, haha) and I'm ready to start writing. Question 1: how many actual keywords do I need to come up with? Do I need 50 unique keywords, so I use 1 unique keyword for every 1 article I write. Or can I say, come up with 1 really good keyword and use it in 50 different articles? Or maybe something in between.

The problem I see with 50 unique keywords is that I plan on linking all of the articles to just 1 webpage/squidoo blog. And the webpage and squidoo aren't going to have all of those keywords embedded in them. Or does the keyword connection from ezine to squidoo matter?

Can someone please share with me their approach to keywords when writing 50 articles for 1 product. Thanks!!

Jeremy

[Moderator 1]

These are very good questions Jeremy!

There are some marketers that may tell you one or the other is better. Actually it can work really well both ways.

"Question 1: how many actual keywords do I need to come up with?"

You can test this by just using a few keyphrases. Make sure that they are targeted keywords - with not a lot of competition. Use these keyphrases to write your articles, ads, press releases, lenses, and blogs. It is good to use a good mix of these in order to get picked up in the search engines. If you can do 50 articles - you will be doing really well I am sure.

"Do I need 50 unique keywords, so I use 1 unique keyword for every 1 article I write. Or can I say, come up with 1 really good keyword and use it in 50 different articles? Or maybe something in between."

I would just use the 1 phrase or the few phrases and not 50 unique ones. It may be hard to find even close to that many that are really lower in competition. That is a lot of work too! :D

You can insert your squidoo lens as one of your URL's in your Ezine Articles bio/resource box - then have links in your Squidoo lens going to your Ezine if you have another URL in there going to a website or blog. You can not have affiliate links in there, but you can use a Squidoo lens URL, or an UsFreeAds URL, blog, etc.

Embed those keyphrases into your tags on your lens or even in your Ezine keyword listing.

Hope that this helps answer your questions. Let us know if you have any more, like I said these are really good ones! :)

[jeremya23]

Thanks for the advice. I spent 4 hours today just doing keyword research with the Google tool, and I didn't even come close to 50 keywords I want to use. That would take way too much time and a lot of unnessary work.

[Moderator 1]

That is exactly what I meant. It is a LOT of work to try and get 50 keywords or phrases that have a low enough number that you won't get slammed by the competition with. You can get 50 keywords and mix them up here and there - use for your tags, but not for your main keywords for your articles and blogs, etc.

Keyword research is a big part of what we do, sometimes tedious, but enough is enough right? LOL :D

You're doing great! Now start getting those keywords into action! Let us know if you have any further questions. :)

[jeremya23]

K I've got another question. I've been doing searches for my keywords in google with just the "quotes" and allintitle:"keyword". I'm trying to figure out what the best one to use is. I read here that someone uses allintitle and marks anything under 25000 as 1 stars, and anything under 500 with 2 stars, but sometimes you can find something that's just in the title with under 500, but when you do a search with quotes that same keywords has 1 hundred thousand pages. Would this still be an okay keyword to use? Basically, what's more important, the results from allintitle or just the quotes?

[Moderator 1]

Jeremy,

More good questions!

First of all you can not predict how Google or any of the search engines are going to act on a day to day basis - but the general rule of thumb is that you want to find out who you are truly in competition with.

Example of what you may type into Google:

intitle:”make money” inanchor:”make money”

There is no space between the colon for this search, but there is between the two searches as you can see in the above example.

You can look at how many have those terms in it without quotes in their web title and the anchor text of their backlinks for informational purposes only.

The search with the quotes is what you should go by. A search without quotes will show you pages that have all the words in it but not together in phrase form like you are wanting to use.

Does this make sense? Let me know if you need further explanation. :)

[Forum Admin 2]

Even if you are able to come up with 5-10 keywords is great! Using the keyword/phrase within quotes provides you with the exact phrase being used. With out the quotes, you will be coming up with more ways that they are using that specific keyword.

If your keyphrase is "Kimberley Hoffman Course" and you put it in without the quotes, the search results will show all these words seperated within the links intros. You may have just Kimberely in one result while the other may have just Hoffman Course.

In choosing your keywords you will want to keep within the range of 1000- 3000 for best placement in using your keywords. Some may go higher or lower 500-5000.

Let us know if you have any further questions :)

[Catherin]

I recently submitted one of my sites to the search engines with a few keywords that I didnt realise were so "unusal" to the the engines, that they would get me the first listing under that keyword. It was only about 4 days before I checked a few of the keywords and funnily enough, those that were the "unusal" ones were coming up as #1 listing, and had been indexed very fast. I tried another keyword, one that already has been submitted by others, and the site is not showing up with this keyword yet.

Are the words that are not already on the engines index indexed first, as they are unique, and will it start showing up results for my more popular keyword later, as it still has to sort this into the index for that word?

[Forum Admin 2]

Welcome Catherin! If you put quotes around your keyphrase, the search engine will only pick up that phrase. But if you place that keyphrase in to the search engine without quotes, the engine will provide all of those words within that phrase:)

[Moderator 1]

Let us know how you progress Catherin - you can try just about anything and see what works. :)

[Forum Admin 2]

If you have already found your keywords and are able to add and edit your website, you will implement these keywords into your content within your website. These should be placed in the title, intro, first paragraph, and through the rest of your website. Make sure that they are placed where the content is flowing and making sense. Do not over stuff your keywords, search engines frown upon this tactic. :)

[Forum Admin 2]

Keep it natural as you write your articles or content. The keywords you have chosen should flow easily within your pages. :)

[Moderator 1]

You want to have a main keyword or keyphrase, but other keywords or tags are very helpful in finding your websites, blogs, ads, etc. :)

[estellaeffects]

I recently submitted one of my sites to the search engines with a few keywords that I didnt realise were so "unusal" to the the engines, that they would get me the first listing under that keyword. It was only about 4 days before I checked a few of the keywords and funnily enough, those that were the "unusal" ones were coming up as #1 listing, and had been indexed very fast. I tried another keyword, one that already has been submitted by others, and the site is not showing up with this keyword yet.

Are the words that are not already on the engines index indexed first, as they are unique, and will it start showing up results for my more popular keyword later, as it still has to sort this into the index for that word?
Hey Catherin,
There is no reason why certain websites and or articles get indexed sooner than others. I have some indexed in 4 hrs, some took 4 days.
Also google will bounce your website or squidoo lens or blog usually after 2 weeks. Don't panic you will see them soon again.

[Moderator 1]

The search engines are tricky sometimes. Just make sure that your content is fresh and keywords are targeted so the spiders will find you. This certainly helps. :)

[Forum Admin 2]

This will happen quite a bit when the search engines update. As Estella mentioned, you will see them again as long as your content is updated and still fresh :)

[estellaeffects]

Okay I'm gonna sound like a newbie here, but I was reading through the Bum Marketing methods and I saw that for every product you promote you should write 50 keyword targeted articles. I get that, but I have a few questions on the keywords and where the articles are linked to.

The problem I see with 50 unique keywords is that I plan on linking all of the articles to just 1 webpage/squidoo blog. And the webpage and squidoo aren't going to have all of those keywords embedded in them. Or does the keyword connection from ezine to squidoo matter?

Can someone please share with me their approach to keywords when writing 50 articles for 1 product. Thanks!!

Jeremy

Hey Jeremy,

50 keywords are not hard to find. Start off with 5 though. Write and submit the articles and check on the Article conversion or click throughs.

It will let you know if it's working. Look at the keywords in ezine articles. Pick those keywords up and write an article for that as well.

Look at your squidoo stats, check what keywords people are stopping by for. If I think a keyword has potential I add it as a tag.
I also write an article for that keyword and submit to ezine articles. Find which convert and work more on them.

Find competitior keywords and write an article about them in ezine. Towards the end of the article mention that you prefer "affiliate product a" and link them to your squidoo.

This works very well.

Remember it is not necc to write an article only about the product, you can write about a competitor, about a trend in industry.

[Forum Admin 2]

Great post Estella!:)

[Moderator 1]

Very good advice, thanks for sharing your insight and what works for you. :)

[namasivayam]

That was really a nice discussion and i am learning a lot. I have a doubt here. Say if i am writing an article on My online income system, the keyword i will use is "my online income system" but the competition is high for this keyword. what do you suggest.

[Forum Admin 2]

Break it down more. Look at different ways that you can use the phrase. You can even check the key terms like "Kimberely Hoffman", "My Online Income", "Online Income". :)

[namasivayam]

Break it down more. Look at different ways that you can use the phrase. You can even check the key terms like "Kimberely Hoffman", "My Online Income", "Online Income". :)
Yes I have tried those options also, but the competition is still very high. So I have taken a keyword "the work at home business ideas" a long tailed keyword which is having less competition, created a website on that keyword and i am promoting My Online Income System in that website. Is it correct method, have i applied the right technique. please advice.Tthe website is available in my signature. Please tell me if the site content is good. I have applied the techniques taught as per my action plan.

[Forum Admin 2]

You are doing a great job! Remember when choosing any keywords/phrases, make sure that it is a term that others are using to find certain products. Here is another key term you can try. Its still a little high like your other phrase, but it too is something that is being used by others, "work at home business ideas", "ideas for a home based business" :)

[Moderator 1]

You are on the right track, keep it up! :)

[namasivayam]

You are doing a great job! Remember when choosing any keywords/phrases, make sure that it is a term that others are using to find certain products. Here is another key term you can try. Its still a little high like your other phrase, but it too is something that is being used by others, "work at home business ideas", "ideas for a home based business" :)
Thank you for that suggesstion the phrase "work at home business ideas" has got 89.4 million searches and with quotes it got 20,600 searches, the other phrase has got 93 million searches and with quotes it has got 17,700 searches. Is it having less competition or more.

[Forum Admin 2]

You want to try to keep it around 1000-5000 search optimization. This way it has less competition and you have a better chance of ranking higher in the search engines. :)

[namasivayam]

You want to try to keep it around 1000-5000 search optimization. This way it has less competition and you have a better chance of ranking higher in the search engines. :)
And now how to do that?

[Moderator 1]

You can do this by putting your keyword or phrase into the search engine with quotes. :)

[Forum Admin 2]

You can do this by using the keyword tool to get some lower phrases. Sometimes you can add a word here or there and find some really good ones. If you are still trying to find some for MOIS, here is one I pulled up:

10,100 for Kimberley's My Online Income System (this is without quotes) :)