When 'Page Rank' Doesn't Matter

Dennis Anthony · 07-06-2010, 03:10 AM

I'm just throwing this out there for discussion and hopefully to help a few budding new Internet Entrepreneurs side-step some of my own mistakes.

Hopefully, by avoiding my mistakes, you can start making money online sooner --rather than later.

I once had a pretty good campaign in a really tight niche that I thought was going to be mighty profitable.

I did my homework. I knew these folks were into spending money on their hobbyist pursuits and I had narrowed down my niche to pinpoint accuracy.

Within the first three months, I had a #1 page ranking and my sites were showing in the top three positions on any page depending on the keyword or search term.

I was dominating my market niche!

Great, right?

Sales, right?

Nope....

Well, okay.... that's not altogether true.
I was making sales ....but $19, $34, $87 and the occasional $189 sale every few months (that entailed a personal coaching commitment from me) -that was just not 'cutting the mustard' as they say.

I had to ditch the whole idea because I was just spinning my wheels.

So, what was wrong?

I can't say, because I really don't know.

But I do know that whatever potential customers I thought I had ....just weren't there. And, I couldn't afford to wait for them to 'show up' and I had been waiting for more than two years!

Sometimes you have to know 'when to say 'when.'

Page rank is great -No Doubt

But don't spin your wheels in a market that has no buyers.

Get Smart and Get Out.

~Just my 2 cents...

Best

~Dennis

Forum Admin 2 · 07-06-2010, 04:34 AM

YIKES!! Two years is quite a while to wait. The best scenerio is that you know how to search for another niche and get to the top. Trial and errors, I think we have all been there at one time for those of us who are veterans

Moderator 1 · 07-06-2010, 11:15 AM

Very good point Dennis on knowing when to say when. It is a good idea to test things out and if they are profitable then building on that and creating a full out campaign on it to make sure that you continue to dominate that niche. Good points! Thank you for your insight. We as long with our members do and will appreciate it.

harveyjerry · 07-26-2010, 05:13 AM

I could not agree with you! I must admit that I have SEO Toolbar with Google PR about this, but I do not use every day to watch it, I hope it has increased. But my SE traffic increased in recent months, although the page rank was the same.

Forum Admin 2 · 07-26-2010, 09:14 PM

What type of marketing are you using harveyjerry?

Moderator 1 · 07-26-2010, 10:27 PM

Please elaborate if you don't mind

modernmother · 08-04-2010, 09:23 PM

Thanks for sharing your story. Sometimes it is nice to hear more than sucess stories. It makes me feel less alone to know that sometimes it is tough for others to get things going too.

Moderator 1 · 08-04-2010, 10:14 PM

That is why forums are good to be a part of and benefit from.

Forum Admin 2 · 08-05-2010, 12:25 AM

This is how we can better ourselves while being able to take others ideas and experiences and trying them out with our own campaigns. Trial and errors, but once you find what works, its a great accomplishment.

chrisadam · 08-30-2010, 11:23 AM

Suppose you do a search for “how to shampoo the dog”. What would be more useful to you: a PR0 site with detailed dog-washing instructions, or a PR6 site selling dog shampoo? Obviously the former is a lot more useful to you, because it’s relevant to your query.

Similarly, while high pagerank is nice to have, your users don’t really care about it; they just want your site to give them what they need. Similarly, you just want your site to come up at the top of the SERPs (Search Engine Results Pages) so your customers can find you. Thus, you want to get links from high-ranking, relevant sites because they count as a strong vote that your page is useful.. provided they’re done right.

Next question: suppose you’re the owner of that webpage on how to shampoo a dog. Which would be more useful to you: a link from a PR2 page using the anchor text (that’s the words you click on) “how to shampoo your dog” or one from a PR6 page with the anchor text “click here”? Again, the former is more helpful; while the latter is better for increasing your pagerank, the anchor text only helps you to rank well for the term “click here” (which Adobe dominates), while the former tells Google what your site is about and helps them to return relevant results.
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chrisadam Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2	When 'Page Rank' Doesn't Matter Suppose you do a search for “how to shampoo the dog”. What would be more useful to you: a PR0 site with detailed dog-washing instructions, or a PR6 site selling dog shampoo? Obviously the former is a lot more useful to you, because it’s relevant to your query. Similarly, while high pagerank is nice to have, your users don’t really care about it; they just want your site to give them what they need. Similarly, you just want your site to come up at the top of the SERPs (Search Engine Results Pages) so your customers can find you. Thus, you want to get links from high-ranking, relevant sites because they count as a strong vote that your page is useful.. provided they’re done right. Next question: suppose you’re the owner of that webpage on how to shampoo a dog. Which would be more useful to you: a link from a PR2 page using the anchor text (that’s the words you click on) “how to shampoo your dog” or one from a PR6 page with the anchor text “click here”? Again, the former is more helpful; while the latter is better for increasing your pagerank, the anchor text only helps you to rank well for the term “click here” (which Adobe dominates), while the former tells Google what your site is about and helps them to return relevant results. ______________________ Want to get-on Google's first page and loads of traffic to your website? Hire a SEO Specialist from Ocean Groups seo pecialist

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07-06-2010, 03:10 AM	#1
Dennis Anthony Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: United States Posts: 33	When 'Page Rank' Doesn't Matter I'm just throwing this out there for discussion and hopefully to help a few budding new Internet Entrepreneurs side-step some of my own mistakes. Hopefully, by avoiding my mistakes, you can start making money online sooner --rather than later. I once had a pretty good campaign in a really tight niche that I thought was going to be mighty profitable. I did my homework. I knew these folks were into spending money on their hobbyist pursuits and I had narrowed down my niche to pinpoint accuracy. Within the first three months, I had a #1 page ranking and my sites were showing in the top three positions on any page depending on the keyword or search term. I was dominating my market niche! Great, right? Sales, right? Nope.... Well, okay.... that's not altogether true. I was making sales ....but $19, $34, $87 and the occasional $189 sale every few months (that entailed a personal coaching commitment from me) -that was just not 'cutting the mustard' as they say. I had to ditch the whole idea because I was just spinning my wheels. So, what was wrong? I can't say, because I really don't know. But I do know that whatever potential customers I thought I had ....just weren't there. And, I couldn't afford to wait for them to 'show up' and I had been waiting for more than two years! Sometimes you have to know 'when to say 'when.' Page rank is great -No Doubt But don't spin your wheels in a market that has no buyers. Get Smart and Get Out. ~Just my 2 cents... Best ~Dennis __________________ Article Writing Made Easy! Free Business Tips, Tools and Resources Legitimate Freelance Jobs From Home Just Starting Out? This is Where You Need To Begin



07-06-2010, 04:34 AM	#2
Forum Admin 2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,868	YIKES!! Two years is quite a while to wait. The best scenerio is that you know how to search for another niche and get to the top. Trial and errors, I think we have all been there at one time for those of us who are veterans



07-06-2010, 11:15 AM	#3
Moderator 1 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,648	Very good point Dennis on knowing when to say when. It is a good idea to test things out and if they are profitable then building on that and creating a full out campaign on it to make sure that you continue to dominate that niche. Good points! Thank you for your insight. We as long with our members do and will appreciate it.



07-26-2010, 09:14 PM	#5
Forum Admin 2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,868	What type of marketing are you using harveyjerry?



07-26-2010, 10:27 PM	#6
Moderator 1 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,648	Please elaborate if you don't mind



08-04-2010, 10:14 PM	#8
Moderator 1 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,648	That is why forums are good to be a part of and benefit from.



08-05-2010, 12:25 AM	#9
Forum Admin 2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,868	This is how we can better ourselves while being able to take others ideas and experiences and trying them out with our own campaigns. Trial and errors, but once you find what works, its a great accomplishment.